ʻO ka palupalu ma ka Honua kahiko

Nā hoʻomanaʻo o nā lā i hala
nui aʻe kamailio e pili ana i keia manawa
ma mua o ka wā i hala. 

Hiki iā ʻoe ke lohe pinepine mai ka poʻe apologists no ka pili ʻana i ka male kāne ʻo ia ka mea maʻamau i ka honua kahiko, ʻoi aku hoʻi ma Roma kahiko a me Helene. ʻO ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, ua hoʻolaha ʻia ka moʻolelo o ka "homosexual utopia" ma Helene kahiko e Oscar Wilde, ka mea i hoʻopaʻi ʻia no ka sodomy, a ʻo nā hōʻike fragmentary i loaʻa iā mākou ma ke ʻano o nā kikokikona kahiko a me nā hana kiʻi e hōʻike ana i ka ʻokoʻa. I loko o ka mōʻaukala kanaka, ua noho ka male kāne, ʻoi aku hoʻi i kahi hana passive, ma ke ʻano he mea hilahila a me ka marginal. I loko o nā moʻomeheu palaho wale nō, i ka wā o ko lākou emi ʻana, ua loaʻa i nā hana like ʻole ke kaulana, akā naʻe, ʻoi aku ka manaʻo o ka hoihoi i nā lālā o ka wahine like, ʻoi aku ka ikaika ma mua o nā ʻelele o ka ʻaoʻao. ʻAʻohe wahi a ʻaʻole ma mua o ko mākou manawa i ʻae ʻia ka pilina kāne kāne ma waena o nā pākeke.

I ka heluhelu ʻana i kēia ʻatikala, pono e hoʻomanaʻo i ka maʻamau o ka huaʻōlelo hou "homosexuality" e pili ana i nā hana moe kolohe ma waena o ka poʻe o ka wahine like i ka wā kahiko, ʻaʻole hiki ke hoʻohālikelike ʻia i nā mea e hana nei i ka LGBT kaiaulu i kēia lā. ʻO ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo nā hana o ka waha a i ʻole ke komo anal i manaʻo mau ʻia he mea hoʻohaʻahaʻa a hoʻohaumia ʻia no ka mea i loaʻa, no laila ʻaʻohe nīnau o nā kāne male kāne kūpono.

I Athens, hoʻowahāwahā ʻia nā kāne homose wahine me ke koi aku i kā lākou koho i ka ekalesia, a ma hope iho ua nalowale lākou i nā kuleana kīwila. Hiki iā lākou ke hūnā i ko lākou kime, ʻehā lākou a hoʻoiho ʻia. No lākou, aia nā inoa inoa derogatory e like me euryproktos (laulā nui) chaunoproktos (gaping anus) a lakkoproktos (anus e like me ka lua).

I ka ʻōlelo a Aeschines kūʻē iā Timarch ʻōlelo ʻia inā he aloha aloha kekahi no kekahi kanaka Atenai, a laila pāpā ʻia:
ʻO 1) lilo kekahi o ʻōpū nui,
Xnumx) be kahuna,
3) i mea kūpono i ka ʻaha hoʻokolokolo,
4) e paʻa i kekahi kūlana i loko a i waho o ka mokuʻāina Athenian
5) e hana i ka mea he lunamakaula a i ʻole ke koho i ka manula.
6) e komo i nā wahi ākea ākea, e komo i nā ʻatikala hoʻomana me kahi weli ma ke poʻo a aia ma kēlā ʻaoʻao o ka pā, i hoʻolaʻa ʻia e ke pīpī.
ʻO ka mea hōʻole i nā kauoha ma luna, ua hoʻopaʻi ʻia e ka make.

ʻAe ka hapa nui o nā kānaka noiʻi ma Helene i ka wā kahiko, pili ka moekolohe ma waena o nā kāne like ʻelua i manaʻo ʻia he kūlohelohe loa a hoʻopaʻi nui ʻia. No ke koho ʻana i kahi kāne nāna i hana manawaleʻa i kahi kuleana passive i ka pili anal-genital, aia kahi manaʻo kūikawā: κίναιδος - kineidos (hāʻule). Ke ʻae nei i kahi kuleana passive, ua like nā kineidos me he wahine hoʻokamakama lā a lilo i kūpono ʻole e lilo i manuahi. ʻO ka hopena, ua hoʻonele ʻia nā kineidos i kāna kuleana kupa. Manaʻo ʻia nō hoʻi he kanaka i ʻae ʻia e komo i loko o ka anally i manaʻo ʻia he prone e hōʻino i ka ʻalekohola, meaʻai, kālā, a mana paha. (Greenberg ma ka roger 1997, p. 181). 

He huaʻōlelo kekahi:

• ʻAʻohe mea e hōʻike ai ka manaʻo o ka homosexuality ... Ua ʻike ʻole ka poʻe Helene i "kahi kākona" hana pilikino o ka sodomy ... Me ka nānā ʻana i nā kikoʻī nui, ʻike nui ka hana ʻino a me ka hoʻowalewale i nā kāne like ʻole. (Karlen 1977, p. 33, 35).

• No ka poʻe i manaʻo ai i loko o ka huhū, ʻaʻohe mea nui aku i nā manaʻo i ʻoi aku i ka piha o nā mele (ʻO Davidson 1998, p. 167)

• He mea maikaʻi loa ke kiʻi o kineidos ... (Clark xnumx, ka p. 22)

• ʻIke ʻia ʻo Kineidos ma ke ʻano he kanaka hoʻohiwahiwa, he keehi i ka poʻe a me ka pili o ka lehulehu (Aliʻi i ka ʻaha kiaʻi 1994, p. 30)

Ua manaʻo [ka poʻe Helene kahiko o ka hele kino ʻana o ka hakakā ma waena o nā kāne ʻelemakule ... ʻike ʻia me ka moekolohe a me ka ʻāʻī. (Keuls 1995, p. 291, 299).

• manaʻoʻiʻo [nā Helene kahiko e ua male) ka kāne male i komo i ke kuleana o ke komo ʻana i ka anal-genital ke lilo ʻana i ke ʻano o ke kāne a lilo ia i hana, i hoʻāhewa ʻia a hoʻowahāwahā. (Kauahi 1972, p. 89)

• [Ua manaʻo ka poʻe Helene kahiko] ʻo ke kāne ke makemake e komo pū kekahi e kekahi kāne, he hewa, he kumu o ka haunaele, a e hana ʻia ʻo ia e like me ka wahine āna e lawe ai. (Thorton 1997, p. 105)

• ʻo ka hana passive i ka anal-genital penetration i manaʻo ʻia he hoʻohaʻahaʻa a hoʻowahāwahā ʻia hoʻi. Ua kapa ʻia lākou ʻo euryproktoi - ma ke ʻano he "anus ākea" (ʻo Garrison 2000, p. 161).

• Kūpono loa nā manaʻo i Athens ma kekahi kanaka makua ʻo ia i ʻae iā ia iho i loko o kahi kūlana passive i loko o ka ulu ʻana o ka genital-anal. Ua manao ʻia kēlā kanaka he ʻano e heʻe a me ka ʻenemi no ka mokuʻāina, ʻoiai ua hoʻopuka ʻo ia i kona ʻano iho, a no laila, ua hiki ke kumakaia i ke ao holoʻokoʻa ... (ʻO Dover 1978, p. 20).

I Roma, ua manaʻo ʻia ʻo ka homosexuality he hewa lawaiʻa a ʻo kahi koa i hopu ʻia a paʻa ʻia ia me nā lāʻau lāʻau. Ua manaʻoʻiʻo ʻia ua hana ka hana o nā Roma i ka "effeminate", a nalowale hoʻi i kona panakani, lilo ia i mea waiwai a me ka hōʻino no ka makaʻāinana a me nā pūʻali koa. Ua wehewehe ʻo Plutarch i ka hoʻopiʻi ʻana o ka Senate i kekahi Capitoline i kahi uku nui no ka "hana ʻino" i ke keiki a kāna hoa, a ma hope iho ua ʻae ke kānāwai "Skantiniev Law" i ka lawena me nā keikikāne a me nā kāne. "

Ua kuhikuhi pū aku ka poʻe LGBT i ka Plate ʻO "Feast," i ʻōlelo ʻo ia i ka hoʻomaikaʻi ʻana i ke aloha no nā keiki a ʻōpio, akā pili ia i ke aloha, ʻaʻole ka sodomy. ʻO ka manaʻo o "aloha Platonic", e wehewehe ana i kahi manaʻo pilikino maʻa ʻole me ka hoʻohaʻahaʻa kino haʻahaʻa, hoʻomaka ʻia i kēia hana, a me ka manaʻo o Plato e hiki ke heluhelu i ka male i kona "Laws":

“Halakiko ʻo ia i ka wahine pili i ka wahine i pili i ka kāne mai ka hānau ʻana, a ua maopopo ka hāʻawi ʻia o ka leʻaleʻa e like me NATURE, ʻoiai ka pilina ma waena o ke kāne a ʻo ka kāne, ʻo ka wahine a me ka wahine ʻo AGAINST NATURE. "ʻAʻohe kanaka e launa me ka poʻe hanohano a me ka ʻole o ka wahine, akā ʻaʻole lākou e ʻae ʻia e kahele ʻana i nā hua extrrasital i loko o nā ʻakena a i ʻole e launa pū me nā kāne, he ʻano kūlohelohe, a ʻoi aku ke ʻoi loa i ka launa ʻana i waena o nā kāne.

ʻO kahi haumāna o Plato, ʻo Aristotle, e kamaʻilio nei e pili ana i nā kūlana maikaʻi a me nā maʻi i loko o ka puke VII o Nicomachean Ethics, me ka cannibalism, trichotillomania a me parorexia, e ʻōlelo pū nei hoʻi i ka moekolohe:

"ʻO kēia mau mea maikaʻi maikaʻi (ʻo kekahi o lākou mai ka uka ʻole, e like me ke kanaka nāna i kaumaha aku a ʻai i kona makuahine, a he kahu nō paha i ʻai i ka ate aloha) a, a, ʻo hope, aia kekahi [kuhi] he ʻeha a mai ka hewa paha. ] nā kīʻaha, e like me ke ʻano o ka huki ʻana i ka lauoho a me nā huki ʻana i nā kui, a me ke kō a me ka honua. E hoʻohui pū i kēia i ka leʻaleʻa aloha me nā kāne. "

"Pederasty"

I kēia manawa, e nānā kākou i ka mea i kapa ʻia ʻo "sanctioned pederasty" ma Helene kahiko. ʻO kekahi o nā mea noiʻi mua o ka sexopathology - Kraft-Ebing, ma kahi o ka hoʻomana hoʻomana o ka huaʻōlelo "sodomy", hoʻomaka e hoʻohana i ka huaʻōlelo "pederasty" ma ke ʻano he huaʻōlelo ʻepekema no ka hoʻokomo ʻana o ka penis i loko o ka anus. 

I ka manawa like, ma ka ʻōlelo Helene kahiko, ke ʻano o kēia huaʻōlelo "ke aloha i nā keiki": pedos - keiki, ma ke ʻano ʻōpio (mai 7 a 15 mau makahiki), erastis - aloha. Pono e hoʻomaopopo ʻia ma aneʻi i ka ʻōlelo Helene aia ʻehā mau huaʻōlelo i ʻokoʻa i ke ʻano - storge (στοργή), philia (φιλία), éros (ἔρως) a me agape (ἀγάπη), a ua unuhi ʻia i ka Lūkini he "aloha" . ʻO ke ʻano o ke aloha, ka mōhai ponoʻī, ka pane ʻana, ka launa ʻana, ke aloha, a pēlā aku. I ka Greek hou, hune, nā huaʻōlelo me nā aʻa "eras" e pili ana i ka moekolohe erotic, akā i ka wā kahiko έρωταέρωτ i hoʻohana ʻia i ke ʻano o ka aloha aloha. ʻO kēia ka mea i hana ma waena o Hercules a me ka centaur akamai Chiron, kahi i hele ai ka "lūlū ʻia e ke aloha" mua e noho pū me ia i loko o kahi ana. ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻohe nīnau no kekahi sodomi ma aneʻi. Pili ka mea like i ka poʻe Spartans, i hoʻokaʻawale ʻia i mau kāne kūpaʻa i hiki ke hiamoe ma lalo o ke koloka like a honi kekahi i kekahi ma mua o ke kaua. Ua ʻike pono ʻia ʻo ka hoʻopaʻi no ka sodomy ma waena o ka poʻe Spartans ke kuʻi nei me nā koʻokoʻo, ka lawe pio hilahila a me ka make pū kekahi. Wahi a ka mea kākau Roma kahiko ʻo Claudius Elian i ʻo ke kolu o nā puke o "Nā moʻolelo kala".:

"Mālama nā ʻōpio Spartan me ka poʻe i aloha pū me lākou, me ka ʻole o ka haʻaheo a me ka haʻaheo, i ka ʻaoʻao ʻē aʻe, kūlike ʻole kā lākou mālama ʻana i ka hana maʻamau a nā kāne uʻi ʻōpio i loko o ia mau hihia - noi lākou iā lākou e" hoʻoulu "ʻia e nā ipo ; i ka unuhi, ke ʻano o kēia pono ʻoe e aloha i nā keikikāne. Eia nō naʻe, ʻaʻole i loko o kēia aloha kahi mea hilahila. Inā ʻaʻa ke keiki e ʻae i ke akahai iā ia iho, a inā ʻaʻa ka ipo iā ia, ʻaʻole palekana ka noho ʻana o lāua ʻelua ma Sparta: e hoʻopaʻi ʻia lākou i ka lawe pio ʻana, a ma nā hihia ʻē aʻe a hiki i ka make.

ʻO ka honi i kēlā au i lawelawe ʻia ma ke ʻano he hōʻike o nā manaʻo mākua a me comradely a ʻaʻole ia ʻaʻohe manaʻo moekolohe (Lombroso 1895). ^ E Ha yM. Wahi a Xenophon ka mea mōʻaukala kahiko, ua hoʻēmi ʻia nā pilina o kahi koa makua me nā keikikāne a me nā ʻōpio ua hana i nā hoa kāne kāne like ʻole, a ʻo ke ʻano moe kolohe ua manaʻo ʻia he mea hoʻowahāwahā i hoʻohālikelike ʻia i ka hihia.

I Helene kahiko, ʻo kēlā me kēia kanaka ʻōpio mai ka makahiki 12, me ka ʻae o kona makuakāne, ua koho ʻo ia i kumu hoʻohālikelike nona iho - kekahi o nā kamaʻāina a mau kamaʻāina paha. Ma aneʻi, ʻaʻole i kaupalena ʻia ka mea i ka hoʻohālike maʻalahi, akā ua hoʻokumu ʻia i nā pilina paʻa, ʻoi aku ka paʻakikī ma mua o nā ʻohana. He hanohano ka "erastis", akā pili pū kekahi i nā kuleana: ʻaʻole e waiho iā ʻoe iho i mua o nā maka o ka haumāna, a ʻoi aku ka hewa - e hoʻopiʻi ʻia e nā kamaʻāina no ka hānai kūpono ʻole ʻana o ka haumāna. No laila hiki ke hoʻopaʻi ʻia ke kumu aʻo no nā hana hewa a kāna haumāna, a no nā koi nui a i ʻole nā ​​hana nui. Inā pili i ka palaho o ka haumāna (me ka palaho), a laila ʻo ka hoʻopaʻi no erastis ka make. "Nā haʻi ʻōlelo a ʻAeschines. Koi kaze ", ch.16:

“Inā hoʻohilahila ʻia kekahi poʻe ʻAmelika, hoʻopōʻino a hoʻohaumia paha i kahi ʻōpiopio makua, a laila e hoʻouna ka makua a ke kanaka ʻōpiopio i kahi palapala kākau i nā mea hoʻopiʻi a koi aku i ka hoʻopaʻi o ka mea nāna i hana. Inā ʻike ka hihia i ka hewa, a laila e kumakaia ʻia ʻo ia i ka poʻe luna he ʻumikumamākahi a hoʻopaʻa ʻia i kēlā lā. "ʻO ka mea nāna e hana like i nā kauwā, ua manaʻo ʻia he hewa lākou."

ʻO ka manawa pinepine, ma ke ʻano he hoʻohālike o ka pilina pili pederastical, hōʻike ʻia ka moʻolelo ʻo Ganymede, i ka manawa i lilo ai ʻo Zeus i huli i kahi eeto, lawe i ke kanaka ʻōpiopio maikaʻi iā Olympus, kahi i hana ai iā ia i mea punahele a me kāna kīʻaha, e hāʻawi aku i ka make ʻole. I hoʻokahi mau makahiki ma hope mai, ʻike ʻia kahi mana o Ganymede he haiā o Zeus, akā ʻo Socrates, ʻo Xenophon a me Plato hōʻole ia wehewehe. Xenophon, e kuhikuhi ana i ka etymology o ka inoa (Ganu med - ʻoluʻolu i ka noʻonoʻo, ʻōlelo ʻo Zeus i ke kanaka ʻōpio me ke aloha nui ʻole iā ia noho lima - noʻonoʻo a me ka ʻuhane.

ʻO nā mea kiʻi like ʻole me nā kiʻi moekolohe kūloko wale nō ia ma Lupanarians (brothels), ʻaʻole ia ke hōʻike iki nei ua pālahalaha nā hana i hōʻike ʻia ma luna o lākou i ka moʻomeheu Helene. ʻO ka maʻamau, uku ke kanaka i nā lawelawe o nā wahine hoʻokamakama i kahi mea i loaʻa ʻole iā ia ma lalo o nā kūlana maʻamau. E hana i nā kuʻikahi e pili ana i kēia mau ʻike i ka mea i kū like nā mea i ʻike ʻia e ka poʻe archaeologists o ka wā e hiki mai ana i kahi hui BDSM a, e pili ana i nā mea i loaʻa ma laila, e loaʻa kahi hopena e pili ana i nā hana o ka lahui āpau.

Ma luna o kēia, ʻo ka nui o nā kiʻi o ka "homosexuality kahiko" e neʻe nei i ka cyberspace he mau hoʻopunipuni a me nā pastiches hou, a i ʻole nā ​​kuhi hewa ʻana o ka pilina heterosexual.

Nā kuʻekuʻe hou a me ke kālai ʻana

Ua ʻike ʻia ka ʻike e pili ana e pili ana i ka 100000 pilala kahiko Yunani e loaʻa ana i nā kiʻi (Hoʻokomo ʻia ʻo Corpus Vasorum Antiquorum Project).

Ua papa inoa ka mea noiʻi Pelekane ʻo Kenneth Dover e pili ana i 600 mau vases, nā kiʻi e like me ia, "hōʻike i ke ʻano o ka moekolohe a i ʻole ke kuhi ʻia ʻana." Eia nō naʻe, ʻo ke kālailai ʻana o kēlā me kēia vases mai ka papa inoa Dover, i hoʻokō ʻia e ka loea Helene ʻo Adonis Georgiades, ua hōʻike ʻia e nānā pono ʻia nā mea homosexual ma nā 30 vases wale nō, a me nā koena he 570 e hōʻike nei i nā koa, nā kaua a me nā kumuhana heterosexual (Georgiades 2004, p. 100)

Vases ma kahi a Dover i ʻike aku ai i nā manaʻo kumu pelekikena huna

Ma nā ʻōhala 30 i hōʻike ʻia, hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻike i nā kiʻi o nā kāne e hele aku ana me ko lākou lima i ka moʻokāki na keiki i ʻike ʻole ʻia (e kū pinepine ai ke keiki), a i ʻole e hoʻāʻo i ka lāʻau pili ma waena o kona mau puʻupuʻu i mua. ʻAʻohe kiʻi hoʻokahi o ka pilina like o ka anogenital, ʻo ka hele ʻana i ka pili ʻana i kēlā ʻano hana he mea hoʻohaʻahaʻa a hoʻonāukiuki i kekahi kāne. ʻO nā satires wale nō e hōʻike ʻia i ka pilina orogenital a me ka wahine kekahi me kekahi, a me nā hiʻohiʻona wahine me nā holoholona. Ua hiki ke hoʻololi i kēia hoʻokumu ua ʻae ʻia ka bestiality (a me ka sodomy) ma Helene kahiko a ʻo ia hoʻi, e lilo i mea i loko o ka nohona ʻenehana?

Sappho mai ka mokupuni o Lesbos

Ua hoʻohana nā mea hoʻohana LGBT i ke kiʻi o kahi wahine poʻokela i kapa ʻia ʻo Sappho mai ka mokupuni ʻo Lesbos he hōʻailona o ka wahine male, ʻoiai, i ko lākou manaʻo, nā pōkole pōkole o kekahi mau poʻi āna i ola a hiki i kēia lā, i kekahi ʻano o ka homa homoerotic. Wahi a hana mea kākau moʻolelo - kaukaʻāina A.N. ʻO ka Veselovsky, ʻo ka poʻomanaʻo Sappho i hoʻolaʻa ʻia i ka nani o nā keikikāne a me nā kaikamahine, me ke aloha, i hoʻohālikelike ʻia i ka punawai o ka noʻonoʻo pilikino. Ua paʻi ʻia nei ʻo Hellenic Psychiatric Association i kēia manawa hanae like me ia, ua like ka aloha ma waena o nā wahine i nā paukū a Sappho me he pā platonoma a ua like hoʻi me ka pilina o Socrates me kāna mau haumāna - ʻo ia hoʻi, pili i ka pilina pilikino ʻole ʻole o ka moekolohe.

ʻOiai ua kiola ʻo Sappho iā ia iho mai kahi pali no ke aloha ʻole i ke kāne, a ma ka mele mele ʻo Atenai kahiko, ua hōʻike ʻia ʻo ia he wahine moe kolohe a nui nā hihia me nā kāne, ʻo kona kūlana hōʻailona i ka "moʻomeheu gay" hou. ʻO nā manaʻo e pili ana i nā makemake kāne kāne o Sappho he mau manaʻo wale nō ia o kekahi mau mea kākau i puka mai i nā kenekulia ma hope o kona make ʻana, a, e like me ka nui o nā Helene a me nā mea kākau moʻolelo, he ʻōlelo hōʻino maʻemaʻe.


He ʻano kūpono ʻole kēia i ka mōʻaukala kahi e laha aku ai ka laʻana o ka moe kolohe. ʻO nā poʻe a pau i lawe i ka sodomy
ua komo ka poʻe i ka hohonu o nā kenekulia, a ua kau ʻia ko lākou poʻe kūpuna kaupalena Hōʻikeʻike i ka moekolohe, aia i kēia lā. E like me ka hōʻike ʻana o ka mōʻaukala, i ka wā i hoʻopaʻa ʻia ai ke kaiāulu a me nā lawaiʻa (kahi i ʻike pinepine ʻia me ka maluhia o ke ahulau), ua piʻo ʻia a ka nalu o nā kānaka e pili ana, ka mea e ola kino a ikaika. Pēlā i pehu ʻia a Helene kahiko a hāʻule i lalo, a hāʻule ʻo imperial Roma ma lalo o ke kaomi ʻana o ka poʻe barbari. ʻO ka Hellenes kahiko, me ko lākou ihu ākea kaulana aʻa ʻole me ka ihu ihu, ua hoʻohemo ʻia a ua hoʻololi ʻia e nā lāhui ʻē aʻe mai Asia Minor, ʻo ia ka mea i hōʻike ʻia ka hapa nui o ka helene Helene i kēia lā. E hoʻoholo ana i nā mea e pili ana i ka moʻomeheu komohana, ke kali nei ka hopena like ʻole iā ia. Ua ʻike ʻē mākou pehea e loli ai ka poʻe ʻEulopa i ka sodomy a me nā hewa ʻē aʻe e nā ʻAmelika, nā Turks a me nā ʻAriki.

Hiki ke ʻike ʻia kahi ʻike kikoʻī ma ka ʻaoʻao 477 ma kahi ʻike a me ka hōʻike noiʻi ʻana. "ʻO ka hopohopo o ka neʻe i ka wahine i ka mālamalama o nā ʻike ʻepekema".
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¹ Hōʻike Hellenic "ἘάνἘάντςἈθηνἈθην ςἈθηνρήσῃῖρήσῃρήσῃρήσῃρήσῃ" ρήσῃὴὴἐξέστωἐξέστωἀρχόντων " unuhi ʻia e E.D. Ua like kēia me Frolova: “Ina he Atenia e lilo indulge, a laila ʻaʻole ʻae ʻia e koho ʻia i ke koleke o ʻeiwa mau pūkana ... "  Pono wau e ʻōlelo ua lawe ʻia ka unuhi i ka wā Soviet, a no nā kumu maopopo ʻaʻole hiki ke kamaʻilio e pili ana i ka moekolohe ma kēlā manawa. Eia naʻe, ʻo ka unuhi maoli ia: "Inā kekahi 'Athenian' eterisi '(ἑταιρήσῃ) - e aloha i ke kāne… »

² Nā huaʻōlelo like "ἌνἌντςἈθηνἈθην" ίωνἈθηνίωνέλεύθερπ " Ua unuhi ʻia ʻo Frolov e "Ina he poe Atena hoʻopilikia i ka hana hoʻomālamalama ma luna o kahi keikikāne manuahi ... " ʻO ka unuhi maoli ia: "Inā loaʻa kekahi mau ʻōpio ʻAtenai" Ivrisi "(ὑβρίσῃ)" - maoli "hoowahawaha, kope ole, haumia".

Nā kikoʻī hou aku i ke wikiō

13 mau manaʻo e pili ana i ka "Homosexuality i ka Honua Kahiko"

  1. Eia naʻe, nele ka ʻatikala i nā lā. E ʻōlelo kākou: "Ma Athens o ka wā kahiko, ua hoʻowahāwahā ʻia nā kāne kāne ...", he aha ka lā a ka mea kākau e lawe ai no ka wā kahiko? A ʻo ka hopena, ua kū mai ka nīnau: he aha ke ʻano o ia manawa i ka wā "non-classical"? ʻO ka mea nui, aia ka pane ma ka paukū mua: "I loko o ka mōʻaukala holoʻokoʻa o ke kanaka," akā no ke aha e kākau ai e pili ana i kekahi manawa "classical"?

    I koʻu manaʻo, he mea koʻikoʻi ke koʻikoʻi nei ma laila he ʻano maikaʻi ʻole e hiki ai i ka pederasty ma mua o ka hōʻea o ka hoʻomana Karistiano i loko o ka honua. A he nui ʻole nā ​​wāwae pono ʻole, no ka mea, makemake wau e ʻike i hea ka ʻike a ka Emepera Nero i lawe ʻia mai, no ka mea wale nō i pili i ka mea i hoʻopio ai ʻo 64, nā ʻikepili hakakā.

    Manaʻohaʻi

      1. akā ʻaʻole hoʻohana ʻo Keristiano i kahi kāne kāne kāne kāne i hoʻohana i kēia keʻena e kūʻē i ka poʻe wahine, he patriarchy kēia

  2. や い や 、 古代 ロ ー マ の な く 邪教 キ リ ス ト の 蔓延 蔓延 し ょ w w 現代 キ リ リ 教 教く

    1. Unuhi ʻia mai ka ʻōlelo Kepanī: "ʻAʻole, ʻaʻole ka homosexuality ka hāʻule o Roma Kahi, akā ka hoʻolaha ʻana o ka hoʻomana Kalikiano ʻino. ʻOiai i ko mākou manawa, ua hewa ka lāhui Kristiano i ka nui like. "

      A ʻaʻohe mea e koi ua hāʻule ʻo Roma ma muli o ka moekolohe. ʻO ka wahine kāne (inā he hoʻokahi wale nō ia o nā ʻōuli o kahi kaiāulu maʻi. No laila, ua luku ʻia ka poʻe Roma laha ʻole e nā lāhui olakino, a ua komo wale ka hoʻomana Kalikiano i ka hakahaka i loaʻa. Ke ʻike nei mākou i kēia manawa i kahi hana like i loko o ʻEulopa i haʻalele i ka hoʻomana Kalikiano, kahi e pani ai nā lāhui olakino i nā lāhui ʻōiwi palaho.

  3. Maopopo iaʻu he kahua kūʻē kūʻē kēia, akā ʻo ka ʻoiaʻiʻo o ka noho ʻana o androphilic gays ʻaʻole ia he hoʻopunipuni, he aha kāu hoʻopaʻapaʻa e pili ana i ka Baibala a me ka Soviet wale nō? Ma hope o nā mea a pau, ua maopopo ke kamaʻilio e pili ana i nā kāne kāne kāne a ʻaʻole ʻo "Boris Moiseevs me Sergei Zverev"

    1. Ua kākau ka mea kākau i kāna ʻatikala i nā manaʻo noʻonoʻo maikaʻi wale nō, he aha nā kuleana ʻē aʻe? ʻO ka mea wale nō āna e kuhi hewa nei, ua hāʻule ʻo Roma ma muli o ke kolohe i loko ona, a ʻo ka mea ma luna nāna i kākau e pili ana i ka hoʻomana Kalikiano, hewa pū kekahi. ʻO ka palaho o ka Moral a me ka Christian Christian, a ʻo ka hoʻouka kaua māmā ʻana o nā barbarians (ka mea i hāʻawi mau ʻia iā Lyuli) nā hopena, ʻaʻole ke kumu o ka hiolo ʻana o Roma. ʻO nā kumu nui ka socio-economic.

      1. ʻO kēia hoʻolaha naʻaupō o kahi pūnaewele ma ʻaneʻi ʻo Pravoslavie.ru e ʻōlelo ana ʻo nā kāne kāne ʻo ka ʻōlelo ʻōlelo "Ua hōʻeha ʻia e ka homosexuality kāne i wehewehe mau ʻia he effeminacy" akā i loko o ke kaiāulu e mau nō ka huhū i ka poʻe effeminate, ʻaʻole hoʻi. nā kāne kāne

  4. E ke kanaka, ua pupule loa ʻoukou i ke poʻo, maopopo. ʻIke wau ʻaʻohe mea aʻu e ʻōlelo ai he mea koʻikoʻi ia i ka mea kākau ʻike ʻole, ʻinoʻino, piha inaina.

    E like me ka mea mua, ʻo ia hoʻi—-ʻAʻole i loaʻa i nā Helene kahi moʻomeheu hoʻomanawanui a i ʻole hāʻule kā lākou moʻomeheu no ka mea ua hoʻomanawanui lākou?!?? ʻO kāu mau ʻoiaʻiʻo, i kekahi mau manawa, i hana ʻia. Hoʻohana mau ʻoe i nā hanana a i ʻole nā ​​​​kānaka a i ʻole nā ​​​​kānāwai mai ka Lepupalika Roma, ka Emepera Roma a hiki i ka Middle Ages ma ke ʻano he laʻana o kāu thesis ʻaʻole i noho nā kāne kāne ma Helene kahiko. Ma waho aʻe o Ancient Athens, kāpae ʻia kēlā mau moʻomeheu ʻē aʻe i nā kaukani makahiki.

    No laila, e hoʻokuʻu aku kākou i kēlā. ʻAʻole pololei ʻoe ma ka mōʻaukala. ʻO nā "hōʻike" wale nō āu e ʻōlelo ai ma kahi o 3 mau puke mai 1970s-90s he mau manaʻo ʻepekema ʻole mai nā miliona o nā hana ʻepekema / mōʻaukala / archeological i hana ʻia ma luna o nā millennia. ʻO kāu mau ʻōlelo hoʻomākeʻaka e pili ana i nā hana kahiko mai nā kaikunāne, he wahaheʻe loa.

    Akaka loa ʻaʻole ʻoe makemake i nā kāne kāne. Ua hōʻike ka ʻepekema (ma ka ʻāina maoli) i nā kāne homophobic, ʻoi aku ka huhū, ʻoi aku ka leo nui he 80% o ka manawa i loko o ka lumi keʻena a ʻo ke koena he bisexual. ʻIke ʻoe, ʻike nā kāne palekana me kā lākou moekolohe ʻaʻole he mea hoʻoweliweli iā lākou. Akaka ʻaʻole ʻoe paʻa loa.

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